Re: (TV) Tom Verlaine and drummers

[Rex Broome <rexbroome@gmail.com>]

We hardly ever even talk about Song and other Things, because, well, it has
more other things than songs on it, but I will say... it sounds really good
and live - apart from that dud of an opener - and the drumming is nice and
loose and organic.  If Tom ever came up with material on par with the
stuff on Flash Light, and recorded it like Songs, you'd have one for the
age, I think...


On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 4:12 PM, amilcar amarante <
amilcaramarante2002@yahoo.com.ar> wrote:

> this is a subject that we always came back to discuss ,in my opinion those
> eighties Tom`s records could been waaaay better if recorded properly ,more
> live with with a band ... hearing those songs live is an enormous
> difference ,
> even if you prefer Billy over JD ,they were a tight band as they come at
> the
> time ,even Tom is more focused and sharp ... i suppose a lot it has to do
> with
> Tom not being able to direct the mix ,as the label don`t let him ...in
> fairness a lot of the record of that era have these kind of problems , and
> Verlaine ones still manage to sound good after all...
> is also revelatory how
> quickly they have been made ,Jimmy Rip told me ,that they entered the
> studio
> sometimes , without knowing the material ,and Tom just say to him " try
>  eight
> of this and four of that " ,that rushed kind of thing ....JD don`t play on
> alot of these albums either ,Jimmy also told me that for "words on the
> front "
> he assambled a backing band with friends of him ,he wasn`t very clear
> about in
> wich tracks and albums he did play ,but he claims Virgin never pay them
> for "
> a miller`s tale " to this day ...
> i always hear a duality in those albums
> sound ,take "words ... " ,for example ,you have a set of songs with nice
> ,real
> drums ,as "coming apart " ,oppossed to others with the sterile ,programmed
> sounding drums ,such as "present arrived " ...it happens to me with "cover
> "
> ,"words " ,"flashlight " and "the wonder " ...
> the claustrophobic sound of "
> dreamtime " doesn`t do much for me ,something on it fatigues my ears a
> little
> ,it`s not bad ,still ....
> i like the production in Television third`s ,also
> ,but i feel the bass sound could be more defined ,less diffuse ...
> wich i
> really like is  "songs and  other things " ,i may have listened it on a
> daily
> basis for such a long time ...the drumming on this is killer too ...
> Tom `s
> first one sounds very classic seventies and classy ...on par with
> Television`s
> first two ...
> also find the instrumental discs very enjoyable ,"warm and cool
> " sounds like a very good Rudy Van Gelder recording ,and Billy ,of course
> is
> really unique ...on  a recent clip
>  from a Television show  ,filmed from a
>  balcony ,you can really appreciate this ...
>
> AMILCAR AMARANTE
> http://temper.bandcamp.com
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>  De: Keith
> Allison <keith@thewonder.co.uk>
> Para: tv@obbard.com
> Enviado: domingo, 16 de
> junio de 2013 13:04
> Asunto: (TV) Tom Verlaine and drummers
>
>
> Does anyone else
> ever feel that Verlaine's '80's albums might have
> sounded "better" (whatever
> that means) with a different drummer (say,
> Ficca) in the band?
> I'm thinking
> of Richard's recent interview comment along the lines of,
> "If you listen to
> Tom's albums, ...could have been a drum machine!" Jay
> Dee D. is a great
> /driving/ live drummer, but quite an 'anonymous' one
> and I don't enjoy his
> playing as much as Ficca's, or Mitchell
> behind/around Hendrix.
>
> I'm listening
> to 'Prove It' as I write this and I love the way Ficca's
> drumming in that
> song is always on the spot but always busy enough to be
> interesting.
>
> I guess
> we'll never find out unless the new incarnation of Television
> should play
> some Verlaine solo songs.
>
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