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Re: (TV) RE: Accidentially Hit the Send Button / Who Plays What When / To m's vs Richard's Tone
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- Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 17:15:55 -0800 (PST)
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richard lloyd impresses the head
tom verlaine the heart
dont you bastards understand this by now!
BALANCE
intellect/emotion = human spirit
good night
ps, just messin about the bastards part
--- "Casey, Leo J" <Leo.J.Casey@Volpe.dot.gov> wrote:
> I accidentially somehow hit the SEND button before
> I finished typing my previous post (and before I
> trimmed it).
>
> so, here's what should have been included:
>
> .....bLAH blah blah ..I think my memory's still
> good--(maybe too good) and I swear I've seen
> in-person parts/solos switched between them.
>
> Another related fact: Didn't't Amilcar Amarante
> point out recently that you can see on the Brazil
> video Tom('s fingers) playing a part/solo that
> Richard usually does?
>
> Ms Secret X told me quite awhile ago, that sometimes
>
> Tom gave almost all of the soloing to Richard (with
>
> a couple of exceptions such as Prove It or the 2nd
> one in MM)--as several on List have noted in the
> past
> this mostly happens on nights when Tom just "isn't
> into it". Also--she wrote to the List once saying
> Tom
> is not adverse (one might even say he's
> 'magnanimous),
> or isn't insecure about giving others (e.g., Richard
> )
> most of the spot-light.
>
> I really believe that *sometimes, say, 10-15%*,
> maybe
> to keep things from getting boring or stale [plus
> other
> reasons], before the band goes on stage that night,
> sometime earlier --hours[?] or minutes[?] or
> days[?]--Tom might say to Richard to take/play my
> part
> on "Z" tonight and I'll do the solo on "Y" tonight.
>
> I think it's pretty obvious Tom can (technically or
> otherwise) play any of the solos on the songs in
> their
> live repertoire (not claiming they'd sound! like
> Richard's solos--except they are virtually are
> identical sounding on occasions on "Rhyme" and
> "1880 Or So" , and on rare occasions even on
> "Call Mr. Lee", BUT not talking Richard's last
> "Lee" solo here.
>
> In fact, in the switching parts incidences *that I'm
>
> referring to*, for "Rhyme" and "1880 Or So", Tom's
> solo is more often so close/similar to Richard's ,
> that that is why it can be difficult to determine
> who's playing what where when.
>
> But even in these instances if you listen carefully
> you can discern Tom's icy tone [meant as a
> compliment],
> more tremolo, more vibrato, uses whammy bar more
> often
> (than Richard), **more physically shaking of the
> neck**
> (than Richard), more 'bending' the notes (related to
>
> last). In short, Tom's signature guitar sound.
> Words totally fail me here Jon Parles in a review
> The NY Times describes what I'm unable to
> articulate.
>
> Half serious: Small (big?) favor to Keith, :>)
> I sent you this review NY Times (not on The Wonder
> yet) recently; could you post just the single the
> sentence describing Tom's tone that writer uses in
> his opening paragraph? Pareles (could have been
> another writer--Robert Palmer? or John Piccarella?
> I'm pretty damn sure it was April 2x, 1987, and
> definitely NY Times.
>
> Separate but related:
> During all of Tom's electric tours 1981- 1987 he
> would
> let Ripp play great majority of the solos on songs
> when
> he could easily have done more of them.
> (In fact a couple of my friends unfamiliar with
> Verlaine/Television's music would sometimes comment
> on
> first attending a show that
> they were more impressed with Ripp's guitar
> playing!)
>
> Important: In the above, I'm not talking about
> who's
> a better guitarist --I think Richard's solos on
> e.g.,
> Ain't That Nothin', Elevation and a myriad of other
>
> songs are probably "superior" to anything Tom would
> have
> replaced them with. I'm just saying they ***don't
> always
> play the exact same parts.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Casey, Leo J
> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 1:26 PM
> To: 'tv@obbard.com'
> Subject: The Ominous Bond Theme Riff / Who Plays
> What When
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