Re: More on TV & Smith/Smith's schtick / RE: (TV) Patti w/ Tom show suggestion

[Glenn Cooper <glennwaynecooper@gmail.com>]

As an aside: what does "pretentious" mean? How do we separate pretention
from ambition? Was Dylan being pretentious when he made rock's first double
album? Was Marquee Moon pretentious? Does one become pretentious as soon as
one attempts to break any kind of new ground? What about Coltrane's
more free-form explorations - pretentious?

I honestly don't know what it means when used in this context.

Glenn C.



On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 2:30 PM, Phil Obbard <pobbard@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I am not a huge Smith fan... aside from HORSES, and maybe EASTER every few
> years, there's no album of hers I generally want to hear end-to-end... but
> I
> have to say that the one time I saw her live (on a double-bill with
> Television
> c. 2004), she was fantastic -- an electric performer with a strong backing
> band. I don't need to buy her new albums (last one I got was GUNG HO,
> which I
> promptly got rid of) but I'd see her live again if the opportunity arose,
> no
> question.
>
> --Phil
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: Keith Allison
> <keith@thewonder.co.uk>
> To: tv@obbard.com
> Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011
> 5:04 PM
> Subject: Re: More on TV & Smith/Smith's schtick /  RE: (TV) Patti w/
> Tom  show suggestion
>
> On 27/12/2011 18:34, Leo Casey wrote:
> > I am probably
> in the minority, but I have always been very disappointed in
> > recordings of
> Smith shows when Tom was in her touring band.  Number one:  I
> > can never hear
> him!; he's buried in the mix; and two:  he keeps such a low
> > profile, in
> fact, he goes way, way overboard in trying not to step musically
> > on Lenny
> Kaye's toes.
>
> Leo, agree with you 100% . I just don't think he even bothers to
> pretend.
> >
> >   it just reinforced in my mind how over-rated Smith is
> > as a
> musical performer/singer/songwriter.  Her whole schtick I find tiresome
> > and
> pretentious.
> Leo, have we ever agreed so much about /anything /before?! ;-)
> I'd add "poet" to that list, too.
>
>
>
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