Re: (TV) Leave Hell out please, and de-emphasize the punk-rock NYC scene, concentrate on the 331/3 rpm album itself

[heathbiter@aol.com]

 Interesting thoughts Leo.

I am definitely curious to read the 33 1/3 book.  A lot of the 33 1/3s I've
read have been very personal and impressionistic, and rarely a dead on
dissection of an individual album.  I imagine Hell's archives could certainly
provide some insight to a a time and place that were crucial building blocks
in the creation of Marquee Moon.  Even if the book is a dead on analysis of
the album, Hell can probably provide some info on the genesis of several of
the songs.  Not to mention some insight into some relevant characters who are
usually tight-lipped or have selective memory.

As far as "punk rock"...  I think that label can be pretty subjective.  (I
once googled "the original punk" and the results were hilarious!)  Saying I
like 70's NY punk usually makes it pretty clear to people what I listen to.
To me it's an umbrella that covers a scene/movement and a lot of very diverse
bands.  Television will always be linked to punk rock for a lot of reasons.

Heath








-----Original Message-----
From: Leo Casey <LeoCasey@comcast.net>
To: tv@obbard.com
Sent: Tue, Apr 26, 2011 8:53 pm
Subject: (TV) Leave Hell out please, and de-emphasize the punk-rock NYC scene,
concentrate on the 331/3 rpm album itself


> 1970s. The author relied heavily on the papers Hell sold to

> NYU a few years ago;

> I believe this will be the first Television-related book to

> make use of that

> archive. Should be interesting!



I guess my serious concern is that a book on the album Marquee Moon should

really have nothing

in it at all about Richard Hell.  He didn't play one note on it, nor write any

of its songs.

He was gone by late March - early April 1975 from Television.



If this author uses Hell's archives as filler at the expense of an analysis of

the album itself

he will be a lazy &!!!*$#@%!



Also:  Television 1976-78 were not a punk-rock band, and the album Marquee
Moon

had/has nothing

to do with punk-rock,  So, if the author spends a lot of time looking back at

the punk-rock

scene in NYC he will have missed the boat (made out of ocean). (Yeah I
know....

Television

shared the bill with punk-rock bands ... so what.)



I'm sure I'll get a lot of disagreement on the above, but the onus is on you
to

prove that

Verlaine's songs, lyrics, melodies, ideas, guitar solos!!, and song-lengths
have

anything to

with punk-rock.  Maybe if someone asked me on a warm Tuesday in February

underneath a marquee

moon on Cornelia Street I might say 'See No Evil'  is somewhat in the
punk-rock

vein given its

very fast tempo, but even 'See No Evil' 's lyrics are poetic/impressionistic

...'romantic'

even.



Leo



SEE NO EVIL (Verlaine)



What I want

I want NOW

and it's a whole lot more

than 'anyhow'

I want to fly

fly a fountain

I want to jump jump jump

jump a mountain



l understand all... I SEE NO...

destructive urges... I SEE NO...

It seems so perfect... I SEE NOO...

I SEE... I SEE NO... I SEE NO EVIL



I get ideas

I get a notion

I want a nice little boat

made out of ocean.

I get your point.

You're so sharp.

Getting good reactions

with your ''BeBo'' talk.



Don't say unconscious

No don't say doom.

If you got to say it

let me leave this room

Cuz what I want

I want now

and it's a whole lot more

than 'anyhow.'



I'm runnin wild with the one i love

I see no evil

I'm runnin wild with the one-eyed ones

I see no evil

Pull down the future with the one you love

Pull down the future

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