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(TV) Rex I Salute You / Journalists / Mr. Secret "J" / 90% and Rising / Disclosure
Rex,
You are absolutely not talking gibberish--and what you say
is not only relevant but it goes to the heart of the problem.
I think a large part of the recent discussion (debate?)
derives from a misunderstanding of terms which Rex has
beautifully described.
When I am talking about parts/solos being 'switched' I'm
talking about role(s) as Rex lays it out it in his
interpretation #"One"'. I wasn't talking about a
parts/solos switching interpretation as Rex describes
it in his #"Two" (despite my wise-ass remark in
my last PS).
Scott, I can't tell if you're mocking me or not :>) but
I'll assume you're not. But I'm not the journalist, I'm
just a guy who drinks too much coffee and reads too many
journalists' critiques (good and bad) oo Television.
And as far as the List goes, Keith, Ty, and Maurice (and
others who I apologize for leaving out) are the real
journalists. (Trivia: Ms Secret X had a masters degree
in journalism.)
Regarding Mr. "J", if you add "+1" to "J" in the alphabet
you get "K"eith from whose The Wonder I quoted (and if you
subtract Lee Harvey Oswald former Street number address
from Clay Shaw's license plate # you get Jack Ruby's
strip Club's answering machine).
I also just upped the likelihood of Per being right (and
me being wrong) about "Call Mr. Lee to 90%. Not based
on any new evidence--just my intuition.
And last but not least, Disclosure:
I own every one of Richard Lloyd's studio records
including his studio work with Mathew Sweet and his
1980[?] 45 rpm single cover of the Stones "Get Off of My
Cloud", as well as several boots of Rocket From The
Tombs. And I've seen Richard live several times in the
1980s---even traveling to NYC to do so. (Don't own his
work for John Doe and a couple of other artists record's
whose names I forget at the moment [(don't want to cheat
by going to his rock family Tree on The Wonder :>) ],
so I guess you can't call me a Lloyd Compleatist).
Leo
-----Original Message-----
From: tv-owner@obbard.com [mailto:tv-owner@obbard.com]On Behalf Of Rex
Broome
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 1:23 AM
To: tv@obbard.com
Subject: Re: (TV) Don't Want This To Get Personal / This Case Is Not
Closed
I dunno if it's relevant, but there could be two meanings to one guitarist
playing the other's "part".
One: part as in "role": during this section Tom plays the lead "part" and
Richard plays the rhythm "part". Basically, Tom's playing some notes and RL
is playing some chords. Almost doesn't matter which notes Tom's playing or
what voicings Richard's using as long as it's within the chord structure
(and even that might be debateable). Thus: if Tom took the solo on "See No
Evil" he would be playing Richard's "part" but nobody would expect it to
sound like Richard's solo on the album.
Two: part as in "written riff or melody line", etc. Meaning that Tom would
be specifically playing the notes originally or usually played by Richard
during that portion of the song, or vice versa. Of course neither of them
ever plays anything exactly the same. Some parts are more like riffs or
melodic figures, though, as on most of "Call Mr. Lee". So if Richard played
"deedly - dee dee - deee" and Tom answered with " ba dow da dow dow dowwww",
they would be playing each other's parts (but both playing "lead" parts).
You can see how slippery this gets. If Richard then played the first "solo"
it could sound different from Tom's without it being noticed; however,
Richard's playout solo is so genetically similar to his "written" leads on
the chorus that if Tom played it he would be obliged to not only play
Richard's "part/role" (lead guitar) but also to incorporate some of the
melodic content of Richard's "part/written riff/melody line". And again,
the slipperiness of the roles is one of the reasons we love this band.
You know, I think I have some valid points here, but I feel like, as
written, it sounds like jibberish... oh, well. Deedly dee dee deeee...
-Rex
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