Re: (TV) More on CBGBs, and Television at #2

[Jay <piazzasanmarco@yahoo.com>]

and your rambling makes some good sense

but i will throw out sonic youth and the feelies and
eleventh dream day and so many more

just rambling too

--- Mike Ehritz <mikeez@earthlink.net> wrote:

> On 8/4/05 12:39 PM, "Thomas Miller"
> <blackmonk@msn.com> wrote:
> 
> >>> Interms of INFLUENCE, I think Television is more
> >>> important than The Ramones, but I am,
> admittedly,
> >>> biased.
> >> 
> >> I'd have to say that the influence is equally
> split, if you consider all
> >> the kinds of bands that have acknowledged either
> band as an influence.
> >> Sleater-Kinney has stated in interviews (and even
> a song) that both the
> >> Ramones and Television are prominent influences
> on their music and sound.
> > 
> > Much as I love Television, I don't think it's even
> close. The Ramones pretty
> > much changed the way Rock is played. If you wander
> into a club at random,
> > there's a much greater chance that the band
> onstage will be influenced by
> > The Ramones than by Television. Add to that
> second-hand Ramones influence
> > through the Sex Pistols, and you've got a good
> case for them being the most
> > influential band since The Beatles.
> 
> The Ramones were instrumental (no pun intended) in
> squashing the formula
> arena rock that was saturating the mid-70s with
> bombastic theatrics.
> However, I think their influence was more
> ideological than musical. Punk
> music requires an audience to work. Has anybody on
> this list or in the known
> universe for that matter ever put on a Ramones LP
> and listen to it start to
> finish? When I think of the influential bands of the
> 70's, I think of bands
> like Talking Heads, Elvis Costello, The Clash and
> Joy Division. I daresay, I
> hear Hawkwind's Quark, Strangness and Charm in more
> 80s music than I hear
> the Ramones 3 chord speed riffs (Actually, that has
> changed in the late 90's
> and 00s). I always hear about the "seminal band"
> Television being an
> influence but I have never heard another band like
> them. Where are all the
> bands with twin lead guitars? Thin Lizzy? Allman
> Brothers? Quicksilver?
> Judas priest? Wishbone Ash? Moby Grape? It seems
> Television was the last of
> an era as opposed to the beginning.
> 
> Just rambling,
> mike   
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