(TV) 'Correct' Collector's Choice Verlaine Solo Debut: More than you'd ever want to know

["Casey, Leo J" <CaseyL@VOLPE.DOT.GOV>]

Henry, 

Sorry for the delay, regarding your question below:

I am 99.44% sure that there is no way to tell the 
two versions of this cd apart by simply looking
for a difference in the Catalogue numbers.

I have both versions--one received in Sept 
and one received this week--and on these two 
cds [different versions of master] themselves 
is stamped: "CCM-316-2" . The two cd plastic 
jewel cases both have this "CCM-316-2" as well.

The current Collector's choice catalogue [both 
paper copy mailed to me in Jan. & on their web site]
give a catalogue # of WWCCM0316x (which appears to 
be different but is really not [as you will see below].

To make matters even more confusing--older paper 
CC catalogues received by me in Sept. and Nov. 
(but subsequently thrown away by me--unfortunately)
had catalogue numbers 'like' YYCCM0316x or KKCCM0316x.

I know the first 2 catalogue letters were different 
because I wrote an e-mail to Philip [may not have 
sent it though?] in which I remarked to Philip on 
how these first 2 letters had changed so *maybe* 
this meant that they had now issued the "correct" 
master.

I just got off the phone with two of CC 's customer 
service people--very nice, friendly people; however, 
as I suspected, they don't have a clue about any 
of this---and maintain the catalogue #s were always 
the same!  

The second guy said the little "x" at the end, 
after "x" after 316 is just short (i.e., alternate 
code) for a "2", both of which designate its a cd 
and not an LP or cassette. He said he'd have someone 
e-mail me next week, but at this point I'm pretty 
sure they will maintain that there's no way to 
tell the difference without listening to the cds 
themselves.

This actually makes sense from a practical point of 
view for CC since it would cost them $ to retool the 
cd template-stamped info, some liner notes' info, 
jewel case info, etc. instead of just using the old 
templates. Also, don't think they really want to call 
any more attention to their mistake of releasing the 
'wrong' master than they have to.

However, all is not lost; there are 2 ways to tell if 
you have the 'correct' version of the cd:

a) If you purchased it by mail-order from CC before 
January 2003, then it's **definitely** the 'wrong' 
version, i.e., if you *received* it via mail-order in 
Jan. 2003 even if you ordered it in Dec. 2002 [like 
I did], OR if you order it in, e.g., tomorrow or in 
three weeks), OR you  bought it in store after 
it's retail release of Jan. 21 and it has Collector's 
Choice name on it, THEN it's the 'correct' version.

b) Go to MM List archives and listen to Philip and me
rant about the differences between the original TV's first 
solo album and Jap./German cd of same compared to 
the  first CC cd release. The differences are especially 
noticeable on "Grip of Love", "Souvenier From A Dream",  
and "Flashlightning" ****[if no organ on Flashlightning 
THEN YOU HAVE 'wrong' version of the cd]*****.

http://www.obbard.com/tvlist-archive/0209/msg00171.html

http://www.obbard.com/tvlist-archive/0209/msg00179.html

 Did I just make you more confused, Henry?

	Leo
-----Original Message-----
From: Henry Biedenkapp 
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 12:27 PM
To: tv@obbard.com
Subject: (TV) "Correct" Cellector's Choice Verlaine Debut

Leo,

Is there any obvious differences in the packaging or 
catalog number to distinquish the incorrect mix 
from the correct mix. I know I brought the CC 
cd with the incorrect mix, but if I get the 
correct mix is there a way to 
distinquish them without listening to the 
two, so we know from the outside 
which is which, besides making our own mark/label 
or something to tell them 
apart.

Henry
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