RE: (TV) Richard, Richard says ....

[eric gregory <crackcity_2000@yahoo.com>]

why not ask an outsider who might have known & who has no vested interest in lying (ie. hell)?
he wrote a nice piece about laughner included in his "hot & cold" collection...
 "Casey, Leo J" <CaseyL@VOLPE.DOT.GOV> wrote:Anyone:

Does this mean that the 'never-wrong'-Heylin 
was wrong in claiming that Lloyd quit for approx.
48-72 hours over TV's decision to release "Little Johnny 
Jewel" as Television's first single rather than 
something shorter/more commercial (Or quit briefly 
for some other inner-band Verlaine/-Lloyd squabble), 
and that Peter Laughtner rehearsed with Television in 
Cleveland for one of those gigs, but never played 
on-stage as Lloyd decided to return?

Leo 

ps: Is there (any other evidence/sources* besides Heylin 
and (the delusional') Laughner that Laughner was ever a 
member of Television even if only for a day or two? 
(I thought there was but don't trust my memory as much 
as I used to unless 'facts' involve Verlaine live performances 
that I actually attended.)



-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Kauffman [mailto:jkauff@earthlink.net]
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 10:11 PM
To: tv@obbard.com
Subject: RE: (TV) Richard, Richard says ....


Well, OK, I have to admit this claim came from two dubious sources: Peter
himself, and Clinton Heylin (From the Velvets to the Voidoids). I guess only
Tom, Fred, or Billy could give us the straight poop (since Richard had
reportedly quit the band during the period we're talking about).

-Jim

> -----Original Message-----
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> Allison
> Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 5:34 AM
> To: tv@obbard.com
> Subject: Re: (TV) Richard, Richard says ....
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> In message , Jim
> Kauffman writes
> >This is so ironic. As many of you old-timers know, Pete was
> briefly a member
> >of Television when Richard quit after the release of "Little
> Johnny Jewel".
>
> Well, Richard says,
>
> "As to Peter Laughner, he was never even close to being in Television,
> unless I was way out of town for a month, and I don't think so. Peter
> was a member of a band which opened a show for us in Cleveland called
> Rocket From The Tombs, which also had as members Cheeta Chrome and Dave
> Thomas. Peter Laughtner had some very serious emotional problems (didn't
> we all?) and developed a weird fixation on Tom, even once visiting him
> in a pychotic state and brandishing a guns at him. I remember Tom
> talking about it and that Peter had been delusional. It is unfortunate
> that this mental health problem cost Peter his life. It could be that he
> and Tom had done some playing together. We had quite enough loose screws
> hanging around that we did our best to steer clear of, if you know what
> I mean."
>
> (in answer to one of the Ask Richard questions at richardlloyd.com)
> --
> http://www.marquee.demon.co.uk
> "The Wonder - Tom Verlaine, Television & Stuff"
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