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Re: (TV) On the other hand/Blasphemy



Very well said. I totally agree with you.
Thanks.

> From: "Casey, Leo J" <CaseyL@VOLPE.DOT.GOV>
> Reply-To: tv@obbard.com
> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 15:56:50 -0400
> To: "'tv@obbard.com'" <tv@obbard.com>
> Subject: (TV) On the other hand/Blasphemy
> 
> Re: Richard's guitar playing: I think what Joe and other MM list members have
> said has a great deal of merit, but on the other hand, let's not let ourselves
> get too carried away.
> 
> I have seen both Television and Tom's solo tours (approximately 16 shows) ,
> Lloyd solo tours (thrice) and Lloyd once with Mathew Sweet, and  I'm not
> supplying numbers to be boastful but to lend some credibility to what
> follows----   I was always very impressed and amazed and at how fantastic
> Verlaine's solo stuff on record and live at these dozen or so shows sounded
> without Richard Lloyd; how Tom didn't need Richard to sound great as much as
> Richard needed/needs Tom.
> 
> The three times I saw Richard with his own band-- he was good, but not great.
> The songs/material were pretty mediocre (boy meets girl, boy loses girl, and
> either  very up-tempo rockers or slow ballads, but not much variety in tempo
> or subject matter, and lacking in subtlety not too subtle, and yes, his vocals
> were uninspiring.
> 
> Moreover, many friends who I dragged to these shows over the years more than a
> few times commented how Verlaine didn't really impress them as much as Jimmy
> Rip who took most of the solos or non rhythm guitar load! (Sound familiar?!?)
> 
> Little did they realize that Tom had written all the songs, arranged all the
> musical parts (even many of Fred's bass parts! [see interview in which F.
> Smith talks about this, I'll supply it if you want] )  etc., etc.
> 
> If anything Tom's too modest, in 1992-93 reunion he literally gave Richard the
> spotlight.  But don't think for a moment that Tom couldn't play circles around
> Richard if he wanted/was motivated.  Don't let me be misunderstood;  I love
> Lloyd's playing, he can be fantastic (e.g., "Ain't That Nothin'"; "1880 or
> So") he has great technique, but he's not in the same league as Tom--- nobody
> plays with as much feeling and subtlety as Tom.
> 
> More than likely, Richard's  a much nicer, friendlier person compared to Tom
> who's  maybe a crypto-misanthrope, but my ears and art don't  factor in the
> personality of the musician.
> 
> 
> Leo 
> 
> PS : I'll take my whippings now for what I'm sure many MM list members will
> regard as my blasphemous statements.
> As long as I'm going to be punished and verbally pummeled I'll throw in
> something else to really piss people some off:  Jay Dee Daugherty on Tom's
> solo tours was a much superior drummer to Billy Ficca--- those solo tours
> rocked like no other music I ever saw/heard, and a lot of that was due to Jay
> Dee.  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Hartley [mailto:jh@brainiac.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 2:51 PM
> To: tv@obbard.com
> Subject: Re: (TV) Re: TV Digest V1 #351
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I've seen Television once (in '92), Richard once solo in '84 or so, and
> Tom once in the Music for Films format.
> 
> I remember coming out of the '92 show with the realization that many
> of the guitar bits I loved were Richard's.  Tom has for years gotten the
> lion's share of the buzz for his guitar playing, and while he's great, I
> think he's ended up taking some credit rightfully due to Richard.
> 
> I certainly don't think it was intentional, but just sort of happened,
> and it's not really the type of thing you can correct.  But when people
> who have heard the recordings actually get to see the band, it's a bit of
> a relevation to see that it's not just Tom's band, but a group of four
> talented musicians, each of which are quite capable of exceptional
> musical moments.
> 
> -- 
> ======================================================================
> Joe Hartley - jh@brainiac.com
> Whenever you find that you are on the side of the majority,
> it is time to reform.  -  Mark Twain
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