Re: (TV) Bob Gruen

[Noah Lopez <noahl@U.Arizona.EDU>]

Good stories, as usual...but let's get to the real essence of the
matter. It sounds like you moved -- what was the end result of
the dealings with your landlord (the whole rent control issue,
etc.)?

Noah


On Wed, 6 Dec 2000 secretX@webtv.net wrote:

> Have you read the interview with photographer Bob Gruen at nytrash.com?
> Here's his take on Richard Hell's ripped shirts:
> 
> "One night Richard Hell apparently had a fight with a girlfrend. I don't
> know if it was over drugs or whatever. There were a lot of rumors as to
> what the reason was but one way or another somebody cut up all his
> clothes. He had to go out, so he took a bunch of safety pins and just
> pinned them together where they were ripped...Well, Malcolm saw that and
> he was fascinated by the "unique design". This wasn't fashion, it was
> more like how do you get out of the house when you've got no clothes
> left?"
> 
> More Gruen stuff at Greatmodernpictures.com. He has some great
> Television photos but I can't find them on the internet. 
> 
> Fred Smith, Billy Ficca, Richard Hell, Debbie Harry, Joey Ramone, Sean
> Lennon, Liv Tyler and many other people were at Bob Gruen's birthday
> party in October 1990 or 1991. I took photos of it with my cheap little
> camera. Earlier that week Fred and Billy had been rehearsing for the
> Television reunion album. At the party Fred was goofing around with Ivan
> Julian and Coyote Shivers. Coyote asked Fred to introduce me, but Coyote
> made no impression on me. It was the first I'd heard of him. Ian Astbury
> rescued me from the conversation. Coyote met Bebe Buell at the same
> party. (They fell in love, married and recently divorced.) The next day
> Tom asked how the party was. I told him about Liv and Bebe. Tom said he
> knew Bebe when she had a baby with his friend Todd Rundgren. I said,
> "Liv is the baby." Tom was surprised at how time flies. We were at an
> Indian restauarant and he gave me the plum that was on his plate, it was
> some kind of marinated plum. He told me about "Mars" and "Rocket", only
> because I was grilling him about new songs as usual. I wonder if that
> was when he thought up the line about the plum blossom. On second
> thought, he's always had a thing about plums. I have a drawing he drew
> in my notebook. It was a self portrait he captioned "Where's my plums?"
> I think it was published in Search & Destroy. I have notebooks full of
> Tom's hilarious sketches and poems. I forced him to write them. (I take
> back what I said about him being the control freak.) Wherever we were I
> would whip out paper and pen. It was an annoying habit of mine but now I
> have a precious collection of private Tom poems. I came across them
> today when I unpacked my NYC boxes. Here's the most revealing one: 
> 
> Poem please,
> or no sex.
> Tease!!
> 
> 
> 
> Definitely talking too much tonight
> 
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