Re: (TV) Hell v. Lloyd

["Cliff McLenehan" <klif@volny.cz>]

> designed, and his own clothes which he designed that largely influenced
> the British Punk Rock Movement.

Sorry Michael, but I don't really agree with you there. I think this  
idea largely comes from Malcolm McLaren overstating his own 
importance in relation to the Dolls, the Sex Pistols and UK punk 
and to Richard Hell overstating his own importance.

There was a British TV documentary on punk a few years back 
where Richard made this claim, followed by a neat edit to John 
Lydon's riposte, which was basically "What a load of hogwash ... " 
followed by the usual Lydon tirade.

If you look at pictures of the Bromley Contingent, the original Sex 
Pistols fans, of which I was on the fringes, you'll see we took our 
ideas mainly from glam rock, gay and tranvestite fashion, rubber 
and fetish wear, the film Cabaret and so on. Everybody had their 
own look. 

New York, and what Richard Hell supposedly invented, (torn 
clothes and safety pins?) never came into it. As far as I remember 
we knew virtually nothing about New York and cared even less.

Apart from the Dolls we hadn't heard any music. Nor had we seen 
many photos. A couple in the NME maybe. And for the major part 
we didn't buy clothes from Malcom's shop. They were too bloody 
expensive. Though it was always worth trying to steal something.

I'm not trying to start a NY vs London war, nor put Hell down, but 
the influence of NY on London was minimal to the point of being 
non-existent. I think we developed in our own little vacumn with our
peculiar British reference points. Which is also why the music 
sounds completely different.

Cliff  
    
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